Week 4: Bears lose. Who gets the deflated football?

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Who gets the deflated football?

  1. Mark Trestman

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  2. Jay Cutler

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  3. The Defense

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  4. The whole F'n team

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  5. Other

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  1. MPbears68

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    The 1st pick was the only TO I am willing to cut Jay some slack on. He stared down Jeffery a bit too much and led him a bit too far but the DB made a great break on the ball and a good play. I'll let that one go.

    The 2nd INT was classic Bad Jay. He tossed a wounded duck off his back foot into double coverage that was way under thrown. It would have been a miracle if it WASN'T picked off. I can live with the occasional deep shot that gets picked and becomes a punt in effect. This floater was so short that Marshall couldn't even make the tackle and the DB returned it all the way to the 2. 7 points to the Lions gift-wrapped.

    The 3rd INT was a miss so bad (and Jeffery was wide open in a zone crease for a 3rd down conversion that would have been big) that it sailed 10 yards past the receiver. AJ didn't even bother trying to jump it was so horribly off target. Like a home run ball hit so far over the fence that the outfielder doesn't even bother to turn around and look. Jeffery's body language was classic afterwards: like, "dude, wtf kind of pass was that?"

    The 4th TO was entirely due to Cutler's annoying habit of being lose with the ball, holding it too long, and seemingly forgetting everything Trestman has been trying to teach him about pocket awareness and timing. Of the 3 sacks allowed, at least 2 of them were on Jay for standing there deer in headlights style and not either scrambling or throwing it away after that little clock in his head should have been flashing red. He now has two sack fumbles both returned for defensive TDs.

    Yeah, I'm glad the team fought back and didn't quit but the game was over by then and no way those yards and TDs carry the same weight as they would have before the D starting playing just to get the game over with a huge lead.
     
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  2. Tarkus

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    Mel Tucker should market that Invisible After Shave he's been using. It's working wonders keeping him out of the spotlight for the most part.
     
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    Mel Tuckers D, minus the 4 TO's and KR return to the 1 held the Lions to 24 points and held the most dangerous WR to 44 yards and held that O to 2 3rd down conversions, ya he's the problem.

    And people are griping on the poor takling and his D giving up huge plays. But when your QB is invisable for 3 qtr's and only shows up in the 4th once the game is over, well he's going to get more blame.

    No one is talking about the horrid game Marshal had either, why is no one complaining about that?
     
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    And Reggie Bush running for 139 yards, and Lions picking up 23 first downs.
     
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    Ya, but it's a pick your poison O now they were facing. Do you let them carve you up w/CJ and the TE's or do you let Reggie Bush beat you and w/all that he only had 1 TD.

    of the 2 options I'd take Reggie Bush. I've spent my time defending Tucker, and the D but I do have to question why he decided to move Paea off NT and to DT for Collins to move to NT. Paea has been stout at NT against the run, so why allow that to change? I know Melton getting hurt was a problem, but moving Paea shouldn't have been the answer.
     
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    I look at it from the standpoint of:

    1. What can be fixed this season as we move ahead?

    2. What can't be fixed this season as we move ahead?

    There were some positives in this game. The OL is one of them.

    The DL may not be fixable until the off-season. If so, then what is the impact of that? How important is the DL to the defensive scheme we run?
     
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    I'm afraid the DL is the most important piece of our defensive scheme. Without pressure on the QB, the secondary can't keep sufficient pressure on the deep receivers throughout the length of the play, and the LBs have too many options to cover in the medium - short zone. With the rules protecting the offense, the defense is at a serious disadvantage already. We absolutely need to pressure the QB. Covering for the inadequate DL with blitzes can be deadly to us against QBs like Drew Brees lobbing the ball over the blitzers.
     
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    Working wonders. Has made his D invisible too.
     
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    I know one thing. The games where Jay falls apart are making me crazier than I already am :-)

    I just want the "Bad Jay" to get exorcised. Maybe Trestman can try bringing in an exorcist. Anything to keep "Good Jay" here on game days.
     
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    Cutler has the greatest ability of all to lose the game or win the game. Could be worse we could have Ponder whose only ability is to lose the game. IF IF we could have the 4th quarter Jay in quarters 2 and 3 he's the hero again. That's why we have him not too many better options available and if you think there are ask Minnesota, Jacksonville, and the other 15+ teams.
     

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