and standard tried and true formulations work well for standard problems, but again past and future results are not always linked when it comes to humans b/c of their ability to learn and adapt. Again I get where you are coming from but I think it's a horribly negative attitude to think that b/c someone failed in the past in a poor organization that they cannot succeed in a better one. I already gave 2 good examples, but again look at Payton in NO's, he wasn't great in Dallas...but then again who is? And I believe there is a reason that no NFL coach has ever won a SB w/2 different teams. If the past performance indicates future performance then a guy like Bill Parcell's should have won title's in NE and Dallas and w/the Jets, not just in NY. But for some reason that's just not how it works. again i'm not going to say Tucker is or isn't the answer, I'm still on the last year was a big fat n/a b/c of injuries, but I don't think anyone can paint his future b/c of his time in horrible losing org's like Jax and Clev, b/c there are to many examples of guys leaving those for better programs and succeeding, Tucker could be one of those guys, he could fail also, but no one has any idea on that yet.