What was the PRIMARY reason for the 80's Bears inability to win more than one Super Bowl?

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Why did the 80's Bears fail to win more than one Super Bowl?

  1. A-McMahon's inability to stay healthy

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  2. B-Ditka 's inability to consistently outcoach the likes of Bill Parcells, Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs

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  3. C-Buddy Ryan's departure

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  4. D-We just didn't have the talent to become a dynasty in the 80's

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  5. E-Other (Please specify).

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  1. BradMustersGhost

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    Just curious as to what the responses on this board will be like. I grew up with the mid 80's Bears, so this topic is kinda near and dear to my heart. In my opinion, the two main reasons were: 1-our lack of talent at the QB position (McMahon was always an overrated passer...even in his BEST year, his stats were only slightly above average, and after '85 he couldn't even stay healthy...and oh yeah, our backups always SUCKED) AND 2- Ditka's inability to match wits with the likes of Gibbs, Parcells and Walsh, ESPECIALLY after Buddy left. I still can't get over the fact that Joe Gibbs brought his Skins to Soldier Field and led them to victory over the Bears in back to back years with two different starting QB's, neither of whom was a HOF'er. IMO, THOSE losses highlighted Ditka's proclivity for getting outcoached when he didn't have the CLEARLY SUPERIOR TEAM (as he did throughout 1985). Ditka was never in the class of a Gibbs, Parcells OR Walsh, and unfortunately the Skins, Giants and 49ers were our primary rivals for NFC supremacy in the mid to late 80's. THAT is why we never even made it back to the Super Bowl.

    So, what do you guys think?
     
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  2. Xa0sG0rilla

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    Also, the mid 80s bears had to compete with some of the "dynasty" style teams that simply bought the best players from the other teams, although my memory might be a little fuzzy on this.
     
  3. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    In '86 it was McMahon going down to injury (the Charles Martin hit). Season over. It was sad because I felt the '86 team was actually better than the '85 team (we were 14-2 in the regular season, and then one-and-done in the playoffs). If any young fans don't know about the Charles Martin hit on McMahon, you ought to Google it. If that happened today the guy would have had a lifetime ban from the NFL. It was beyond just a late hit. It was borderline criminal.

    We were never the same after that year, IMHO. Ditka wasn't a great coach. We loved him anyway, but he was outcoached. We had incredible talent, but Ditka just wasn't much of a coach after '85. In '87 we had the strike, and Ditka ticked off his own players (the real ones, not the scabs) and the team ultimately gave up on Ditka after that. Ditka was just going through the motions. If you ever get the chance to watch "A Football Life - Mike Ditka" it is worth watching to understand how the wheels fell off after '85. I still like Mike Ditka a lot, but just being "real" here.

    We never did get the QB thing figured out after McMahon's injury. That didn't help either.
     
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  4. The Benjamin

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    The Dirties hit I have ever seen

     
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    My choice is other and it's a two word answer: Michael McCaskey
     
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  6. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    That's a great point Soul.

    Another contributing factor was losing Hall of Fame GM Jim Finks. He was the architect of the roster that won in '85. He was technically "gone" in '82 but had a lot to do with the '83 draft. Losing Finks may not have been a primary cause of our decline, but it sure didn't help. He quit because he wasn't consulted in the hiring of Ditka. That was too bad. Ditka wasn't the reason we won the SB in '85. By '87 Ditka's own players had pretty much quit on him after the strike. Ditka was a great personality, and I think he's a good guy who loves the Bears. But not much of a coach IMHO. He had the talent to win multiple SB's.

    But yeah, Michael McCaskey comes in. We lose Finks. We have QB woes. Buddy takes a hike. It was all pretty bad for us...
     
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    That wasn't a "hit". That was assault.
     
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    this right here.
     
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    meh, it is too easy to blame McCaskey. Yeah, he was a tool, BUT it wasn't his fault that "Da Coach" got pantsed by Gibbs in '86, and again in '87, by Walsh in '88 and by Parcells in '90. Did I mention that the FIRST three of those playoff games were at home?! : (
     
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    I think it was a lot of things...McCaskey sticking his nose in,McMahon injures, key players and staff leaving and if I recall,Washington knocked us out two years in a row
     

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