What was the PRIMARY reason for the 80's Bears inability to win more than one Super Bowl?

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Why did the 80's Bears fail to win more than one Super Bowl?

  1. A-McMahon's inability to stay healthy

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    29.0%
  2. B-Ditka 's inability to consistently outcoach the likes of Bill Parcells, Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs

    7 vote(s)
    22.6%
  3. C-Buddy Ryan's departure

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    12.9%
  4. D-We just didn't have the talent to become a dynasty in the 80's

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  5. E-Other (Please specify).

    11 vote(s)
    35.5%
  1. Chad Schwartz

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    I have to say the primary reason bears did not win at least 2 Super Bowls in 1980s was very obvious. A different attack with jimmy Mac! The bears record w Jimbo at qb was impressive to say the least.. 25 straight wins at one point. They were unbeatable with a healthy McMahon plain and simple. The other reason they didn't win was because of money. Wilber wanted paid, Otis , Willie, etc... Fencik&payton retired. Buddy left after Super Bowl. I'm still sick about 86&87! I still wanna get with Otis Wilson and blow charles martins punkass away with a .38
     
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    A massive cancer cell infected the team. It was called Michael McCaskey. :asshat3:
     
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    IMHO To say that it all falls on the players is just ludicrous. It is and always will be a combined effort by Management, Coaches, and players. Management builds the team, Coaches coach the best out of them, and players execute the plays/plan on the field.

    Each one relies/depends on the other. If one level of the pyramid fails, then it all fails. They're all inter-connected. They all hold part of the blame.
     
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    Yes and no.

    Lack of preparation, motivation (as as a pro athlete if you need to be motivated you are in the wrong business) goes into it.

    Again, players play. They are the ones who go out there as execute. Failing to execute is on them. You can have the best coach calling the best plays. If the players do not execute it is on them.

    Giving them passes is rediculous. They are primarily responsible since they are the ones who ultimately decide what happens.

    Just ask Michael Jordan. "Organizations don't win championship, players do."

    So, in the same light players lose championships, not organizations
     
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    That's exactly how I see it too. It's like a tripod. The tripod right now seems as good overall as I can remember with the Bears:
    1. Management/Front Office: Great management team here now with George McCaskey, Emery, Cliff Stein & the upgraded scouting department.
    2. Coaches: Trestman seems to have the gears to put together a solid coaching staff. It may still be a work in progress but at least we have a solid HC putting it all together.
    3. Players: The team is undergoing a major upgrade in player-talent that has gone on since Emery arrived and inherited a mess. The offense is already much improved. The defense is in the process of getting a major upgrade.

    The 80's Bears had great talent except at the #2 QB position. When McMahon went down to injury the season was pretty much over at that point. Ditka wasn't a very good coach. Love the guy, but he was average at best as a HC. It's well documented that he made a lot of mistakes.
     
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    Blasphamy!

    Lol
     
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    Charles Martin died in 2005 at age 45, due to complications from kidney failure.

    It sounds insensitive, but good-BYE!! I watched the youtube of the play and I am fired up about it. Then to see his teammates high-fiving him on the sideline after he was ejected..
     
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    When a team fails the blame should NEVER solely be on one level of the Management-Coaching-Player pyramid.

    Again they're all interconnected. If one level fails then they've all failed in some form or another.

    If they succeed then they've all played a part in that success.

    To blame only one when they fail and to give only one credit when they succeed is above and beyond ludicrous and shortsighted.
     
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    They are all responsible, but the majority blame lies with those who have the most direct impact on the outcome
     
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    I voted other. My belief then, as it is now is that the pwnership thought they were so dominant that they would win it again no matter what. Unfortunately, what made them dominant was the dominant players, and McCaskey couldn't seem to connect the dots there. I thinkwhat sunk them was a lack of a concerted effort to keep the core together. They were pretty cheap in those days and McCaskey let a lot of the players go elsewhere. He just didn't get the importance of having kept the team together. That was a team for the ages and to put a collection of talent like that was huge. To let it dissipate the way he did was a crime.

    In short, ownership was the cause. Financial prioritization and lack of football smarts. Pretty much describes Mikey to a tee.
     
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