what we learned, chi v pitt

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  1. riczaj01

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    Chicago O: 40 points looks good right, except 24 of those points came off D TO's and 14 off D TD's. the Bears O needs to be able to score and sustain drives on their own. Trestman and Cutler need to clean up the 1st qtr playcalls to avoid losing TO's in the 1st qtr. To be out of TO's in the 1st qtr is embarassing. Forte had a good 1st 3 qtrs, averaging over 7 yards per run, and over 8 yards per catch, but when it came time to close it out in the 4th he was shut down, predicatble playcalling? Jeffery had a good game, I know no td's or 3rd down conversions, but still he produced, Earl B made a showing, and MBennett was held out of the endzone but still had a good impact on a couple plays. BMarsh was held quite most the night, but he was there when it counted.

    Chicago D: Just like the last few years the D cannot stop a team w/out a turnover, luckily for them they are good at getting them, and scoring on their own to make up for it, but against the elite teams chances are that won't work, it hasn't in the past at least. We did finally have some QB pressures sacks and hits, but a lot of it came from the LB's. Peppers made a sighting, so did Wootten, Melton got in on a few plays too, but it was mostly Anderson Briggs and DJ Williams getting back there and causing havoc. Cudo's to Major Wright on a nice pick and TD.

    Chicago ST's, Gould and Podlesh really the only highlights, everyone else kinda sucked.

    Chicago Coaches: Your players saved your ass tonight, you were outcoached and out manuvered more often then not....first time so far, but it shows how reslient this team actually is. Again I cannot think of a pre snap penalty by the Bears OL....and really not a lot of penalties in general, other then a horrid Walters roughing the punter. That speaks volumes about the postive influence of the coaches on this team though.

    Pitt O: They might not be great, but they are explosive and resilient to a man. But just to many careless plays by Big Ben and there is no way to come back from that. That was Cutlers problem the last several years, and now you can see how it puts the team at such a disadvantage.

    Pitt D: They had a solid game really, if it wasn't for their O constantly putting them in a bad situation the team might have held the Bears O to 20 points, and a win for Pitt. But you cannot allow the RB to chew up yards like they did for most of the game, AND plays by the WR's to constantly eat you up.

    Pitt ST's: didn't do much, other then hold Hester, which in and of itself it a big deal.

    PitT Coaches: they had a better gameplan, but were out manned and that's hard to overcome. They just didn't have the horses to pull out a win today; not when their primary piece kept costing them.
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    The team seems to be learning and getting better week by week. I was really pleased that the rookie OL guys held up tonight. They're going to be fine this year, and just get better each game too.

    We need to keep taking care of business, and put away the Lions next week. The Packers look like a mere shadow of past years teams. We need to put another "W" in the win column next week and put more distance between them and us (Packers on a bye week next week).
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    Some thoughts.

    -O Line played decent.
    -Mel Tucker needs to get it together. Our Pass Rush/Pass D BLOW right now.
    -Trestman needs to use this game as a lesson for Coaching better in the future.
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    When it looked like things were getting out of hand, the Bears, especially Cutler, know how to bounce back and regain the momentum. The D needs to contain the receivers better. Brown torched them for 200 or so yards tonight.
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/tag/_/name/2013-week-3-rapid-reaction

    SEPT 22
    11:45 PM ET
    By Michael C. Wright | ESPN.com

    PITTSBURGH -- A few thoughts on the Chicago Bears' 40-23 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers:

    [​IMG]What it means: The Bears sit alone atop the NFC North, and start 3-0 for the just the second time since 2006.

    Stock watch: Jay Cutler put on a gritty performance down the stretch. Cutler threw for just 159 yards and faced more pressure in this outing than he had in the two previous combined. Still, he completed 67 percent of his passes, took care of the ball, and made clutch plays late.

    Three for 3-0: The Bears captured division titles in each of the past three seasons they started 3-0, dating back to 1991, while also winning at least 11 regular-season contests in those years. The last two times the club started 3-0, it advanced to the Super Bowl (2006) and the NFC Championship (2010).

    Scoring D: The Bears scored 24 points off turnovers, including a 42-yard Julius Peppersfumble return for TD, and a 38-yard interception return by Major Wright. Wright’s INT return marked the second consecutive game in which the Bears recorded a pick-six.

    Tim Jennings scored on an INT in Chicago’s win last week over the Vikings.

    Just last season, the Bears racked up eight INT return TDs to tie the 1998 Seahawks for second-most in NFL history. This season, Chicago is already a quarter of the way there.

    Williams contributes: Rookie Jonathan Bostic developed into the favorite to start at middle linebacker because of his play during training camp, but veteran D.J. Williams showed why the staff prefers him in the middle of the defense.

    Williams logged two sacks of Roehlisberger, including one in which he stripped the quarterback with James Anderson recovering at the Pittsburgh 17. That turnover led to aMatt Forte TD.

    Explosive plays still an issue: Entering the game, the Bears had surrendered eight completions of 20 yards or more, including two of 40-plus yards. In the second quarter alone, the Bears gave up two more long balls (gains of 45 and 33 yards) to Antonio Brown, who snagged a difficult 33-yard TD with 6:27 left in the first half. Roethlisberger also hit a 32-yard completion, a 22 yarder and a 26 yarder, before finding Brown for a 21-yard TD with 1:57 left in the third quarter. Roethlisberger also hit a 21-yard connection and 27-yarder in the fourth quarter.

    This is a problem.

    What’s next: The Bears take Monday off before beginning preparations Wednesday for yet another road matchup, this time at Detroit on Sunday.
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    The Peppers TD was pretty cool to watch. For an old guy, he can still run.
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    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/22/bears-take-24-10-halftime-lead-over-steelers/
    Bears Win Big Over Steelers, Improve To 3-0
    September 22, 2013 9:17 PM


    PITTSBURGH (AP) — Chicago’s defense forced five turnovers and scored twice, and the Bears beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 40-23 on Sunday night to remain unbeaten.

    Major Wright returned an interception 38 yards for a touchdown in the second quarter, and Julius Peppers picked up Ben Roethlisberger’s fumble and raced 42 yards for a score in the fourth quarter as the Bears (3-0) held off a late rally.

    Roethlisberger completed 26 of 41 passes for 406 yards, and threw two touchdowns to Antonio Brown, but the Steelers fell to 0-3 for the first time since 1986 thanks to an avalanche of mistakes.

    Jay Cutler passed for 159 yards and threw a 17-yard touchdown strike to Earl Bennett with just under 6 minutes remaining to give the Bears breathing room after the Steelers trimmed a 21-point deficit to four.

    The Bears were already up 17-3 when Roethlisberger threw off his back foot in the face of a blitz. The bail sailed right into the hands of Wright, who sprinted down the sideline for a touchdown to give the Bears a commanding 21-point lead.

    The score marked the second straight week and the 10th time since the start of the 2012 season the Bears returned an interception for a touchdown.

    The Steelers, looking to avoid an 0-3 start for the first time since 1986, responded with a 33-yard touchdown pass from Roethlisberger to Antonio Brown with 6:35 left in the half to give Pittsburgh life.

    Still, the half belonged to the Bears. Chicago needed a pair of fourth-quarter comebacks to win their first two games. There would be no slow start this time after sprinting to a 17-0 lead.

    Matt Forte slipped into the end zone from 5 yards for one touchdown in the first quarter and broke loose for 55 yards to set up another and Chicago’s defense continued its ballhawking ways as the Bears raced to a quick 17-0 lead.

    Working quickly to avoid the myriad of blitzes thrown his way, Chicago quarterback Jay Cutler completed 8 of 10 passes on a 51-yard opening drive that ended with a 47-yard field goal by Robbie Gould.

    Four of those completions went to Alshon Jeffery, who came in with six receptions through the first two weeks.
    The Steelers hoped the return of tight end Heath Miller would pump some life into the NFL’s 31st-ranked offense. Miller hadn’t played since tearing ligaments in his right knee last December against Cincinnati.

    He sprinted onto the field on Pittsburgh’s opening possession and Roethlisberger found him for a 6-yard gain on the team’s second offensive play.

    The momentum quickly vanished. Roethlisberger dropped back to pass on Pittsburgh’s third offensive snap and stepped up in the pocket to evade the rush.

    Williams reached for Roethlisberger’s hands and the ball came loose. Anderson pounced on it at the Pittsburgh 17.
    Chicago needed four plays to make it 10-0. Cutler found Forte for an 11-yard gain on third-and-9, and one play later Forte flipped into the end zone for his second touchdown of the season.

    Pittsburgh went nowhere and punted, giving Chicago the ball near midfield. Forte ran through a gaping hole and darted to the right sideline before being pushed out of bounds at the Pittsburgh 5.

    A defensive pass interference call put the ball at the 1. Three plays went nowhere before Bush’s second effort on fourth down pushed the lead to 17-0 and had some of the capacity crowd at Heinz Field already heading to the exits less than 15 minutes into the game.







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    Obviously the team will be a "work in progress" with the new coaches, players, schemes etc. But we have a decent start to the season. We have a 2 game lead on the Packers, and since they are on a bye week next weekend, we have an opportunity to go up 3 games on them in the win-column. The Bears need to take care of business in Detroit next week and get another "W" and complete a 4-0 start to the season.
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    What I learned:

    Trestman got out-coached by Dick Lebeau. What worked early was fine, but Lebeau adjusted his D, Trestman did not adjust his O playcalls, and the Steelers D shut the offense down. Fortunately, the Turnovers gave us the win. And, since Lebeau is a seasoned vet at his position, and Trestman is a rookie HC, ill give him a pass for now, so long as he learns from his mistakes and makes better adjustments.

    Takeaways. Yes...they are great, and saved our asses. But you can not rely on them to win games, because you cant always generate them. Defense needs to learn all of the other fundamentals of how to play defense it seems *coughtacklingcough*

    Pass D. Well, im sure ours looks nice, if we could just find out where we left it.

    Jefferey. Played a great game to start, he is going to have a solid future as a WR.

    4th Quarter Heroics. This is probably what you will define our season as. Which, isnt necessarily a BAD thing, its great to have a team that is clutch in the 4th quarter, whether its on offense, defense, or both. However, it sure would be nice to win a game before then. Im guessing this wont be as much of an issue with time, as our team finds their identity and clean up some of the slopiness.

    DJ Williams. Is proving to be a capable replacement for Urlacher.

    Peppers. May not be getting sacks, but he is still playing his heart out, and has super awareness of whats going on around him, His grab on that fumble was caught in mid-air, AND he was still able to run it back to the house. Amazing.

    Ultimately, it seems like the Bears are going through a trial by fire to start the season. They have faced pretty much everything at one point or another: Good defenses, good pass rushes, good QBs, good RBs, good WRs, and yet they still manage to win. This is a good sign.
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    One thing I learned: Shea McClellin needs to step his game up. Like any play now, flashes, potential, skill, doesn't mean jack.

    One other thing: I like Kyle Long. I like how he plays, not so much his results thus far. (Which has been better then I expected)
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    Mel has to blitz to get a consistant pass rush, but he needs that front four to get more so they can blitz less. These blitzes this year are what are hurting the D in the big pass plays.


    http://www.hubarkush.com/2013/09/23/two-sides-to-bears-blitzes/aayh89/

    Two sides to Bears’ blitzes
    By KEVIN FISHBAIN kfishbain@shawmedia.com - Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:27 p.m. CDT

    Chicago Bears outside linebacker James Anderson (50) celebrates with defensive end Julius Peppers (90) after getting the ball from Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (7) in the first quarter of an NFL football game in Pittsburgh, Sunday, Sept. 22, 2013. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar) (Gene J. Puskar)
    PITTSBURGH – The question seemed simple – if you can’t get to the quarterback, why not blitz more?

    “We’ll blitz when we need to, and when we want to,” defensive coordinator Mel Tucker said on Wednesday. “The blitzes complement the base and vice versa.”

    The Bears needed to put pressure on Ben Roethlisberger, and clearly wanted to in Sunday night’s game against the Steelers. Tucker called for several blitzes, whether it meant sending linebackers James Anderson and D.J. Williams or bringing a defensive back, like Chris Conte or Isaiah Frey.

    Major Wright’s interception return for a touchdown and D.J. Williams’ forced fumble both came thanks in part to blitzes.

    Williams stood out in the first half in his sixth career game against the Steelers. The veteran had two sacks – the same amount as the entire team in the first two games – including one that forced a turnover.

    The strategy was far from 100 percent effective, though. Roethlisberger still made the Bears pay a few times for bringing the house. His big touchdown pass in the first half to Antonio Brown (33 yards) came when the Steelers picked up Conte’s blitz.

    Another side to the Bears needing to bring five, six or seven players in the pass rush is that the defensive line still wasn’t able to create pressure on its own, and Roethlisberger seemed to figure things out after halftime.

    Calm Cutler: A common conversation topic during the week was a more calm, relaxed Jay Cutler, and he looked it on the Bears first drive of the game. In hostile territory on primetime television – something that has often left Cutler and the Bears’ offense flummoxed – the Bears marched down the field, with Cutler completing 8-of-10 passes, four of them to Alshon Jeffery. They had to settle for a field goal, but it set the tone early.

    Giving up the big one: The defense continued to allow explosive plays, and on Sunday night those came against one of the league’s worst offenses through two weeks. Roethlisberger’s arm strength, combined with the speed of receiver Antonio Brown, burned the Bears’ secondary one too many times, including for a pair of touchdowns. Five different Steelers receivers had a catch go for 20 yards or longer.

    Neutralizing Hester: A week after breaking his own record for kickoff-return yards in a game, Hester didn’t have an opportunity to directly take over the game – but his presence helped in field position. Zoltan Mesko averaged 29.5 yards on his first two punts of the game. When Hester did have a chance on a short kickoff in the first half, he tried to dance away but was stuffed deep in Bears territory.

    Quick hits: Forte limped off the field with trainers late in the third quarter with what appeared to be a lower right leg injury. He did return on the next series. … The offense didn’t seem to have much trouble operating in the noise of Heinz Field, but according to the radio broadcast, Cutler was having trouble hearing plays in his helmet. ... Michael Bush got only six snaps in Week 2, but short-yardage situations gave him more chances to run, though he couldn’t get much against the Steelers’ front.
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    Wootten is owning Shea, on the other hand Kyle is owning his competition.
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    Did he even suit up for the game?
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    Not only is the team a "work in progress" but Trestman is too. He did make some mistakes tonight, but he seems like the type of coach who will learn from them, and get better as the season goes on. The amazing thing (to me anyway) is that as this new team and coaches are learning and improving - they are still getting wins.

    Before this season began, I thought we'd absorb some losses as the team went through this initial learning curve. Instead the team is unbeaten and 2 games up on Green Bay. You couldn't ask for a sweeter beginning to the Trestman era than that.
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    A quick look at the stats: since his opening day misses, Forte has caught ever pass he's been thrown....pretty damn impressive for a RB. Jeffery had the biggest day of the WR's. He had 1 less yard then Marshal, both had the same amount of targets, but Jeffery caught 7 of those 8, Marshal caught 5; although Marshal caught a huge pass in the 4th. Lets call it a tie b/c of the hugeness of that play. the new BU(black unicorn) had a poor game, 2 of 5 for 10 yards. Someone asked about an Earl sighting, well you got it buddy, now chill out.

    Even w/the complete shut down in the 4th, forte still had over 5.4 yards per rush and 6 yards per rec. He had a big night, and he should have had more carries in the 1st 3qtrs. On the opposite, Bush looked like garbage. He looked worst then Forte on short yardage and on goal line. If Forte does go down, the Bears are in trouble. Shea had 1 tacke and 1 qb pressure...that's it? The kid is supposed to be a pass rush specialist and that's it? DJ Williams had a big game, anyone wondering if the team made a good choice to replace Urlacher, after this game, I think DJ answered that question a little. Anderson is an absolute steal though, he's been huge all 3 games, and was huge again.
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    Fun stat for the week:

    Currently, the Bears are 3rd in Points for, with 95. Second place is GB with 96. (Technically as of tonight, they are 1 and 2, but Denver has 90 and hasnt played yet, and i seriously doubt they will be held to 6 points or less).

    For you non-math people out there, that is a 31.7 Points average per game. Obviously, this is not entirely offense, since our D has been putting in points as well, but none-the-less, a 30+ points per game average against GOOD defenses is a great thing.
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    Ha ha Jimmors. Shea had a lot of snaps. He also had quite a few plays where he got off the line and beat his man... No results. I did not focus on him hard, but I can't forget one rush where Ben got away and it looked like McClellin stopped before the whistle.

    He was down and might have had his legs pinned, but It looked to me like he stopped. Very un-McClellin like.

    I can understand if he gets blocked but darnit, his strength is taking the open shot. He had openings :(
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    Yeah, he was just invisible. I didnt even remember him until you brought it up. I was like "oh yeah, Shea is a Bear, i forgot."
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    I wasn't particularly impressed by the play of Wootton tonight, or any of the front four for that matter. They are getting no pressure, and now with potentially a serious injury to Melton, it will likely be even worse. Peppers looked pretty slow again tonight to be honest. I wonder if he is having any foot problems again, or maybe the conditioning is still a little down. He just doesn't have the same burst as in years past, although the fumble recover was cool.
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    On a side note, Garza had one heck of a solid game overall. He doesn't even look remotely like he did last year. He had some amazing play tonight. Who knew .......other than WeNeedMoreLinemen :-)
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