Whether It's Been Said Or Not Webb's On The Hot Seat...........

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    MP I believe that. Mills proves what I was saying this offseason, you don't have to draft high round guys at the OL if the GM/HC know what they are looking for....and a T in this system isn't as needed as the G is. So chances are the team will either pick up a cheap vet T to play swing next year, or they'll draft another mid round T to do it.

    Only way Webb sticks is if this pay cut and demotion changes his mental approach to the game; it's possible, but normally it's a cut that changes that...when you lose that job/paycheck you take it a lot more serious.
     
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    Well, Ts tend to go higher than Gs and you don't generally expect a 5th round pick to become your starting RT on opening day of his rookie season. If that's the way it pans out for us, it's mostly because our other options sucked and/or failed. It certainly wasn't planned this way.
     
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    i think allot of the attitude on why bums hung around in the previous regime was laziness to start from scratch with new talent, not wanting resources used for adding to defense taken away, and arrogance. You have people like tice getting a big head cause everyone raving about how he got the most of a bad oline even though we were always ranked horribly. We saw time and again most of the draft and FA money went to defense and st. And laziness to develop talent was obvious just check out the red shirt theory which is nonsense
     
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    absolutely right, but good training and a system set up to let the T's have it easier allows for this. It's also why I don't think you'll see Long move to T, that and Suh plays inside.
     
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    I disagree with drafting a rookie tackle to play swing. You just pick up a vet OT whose played both sides before. There are tons of those guys out there on the fringes of the NFL looking for a way back in.

    It's how Webb is going to earn his paychecks for the next 6 years, floating from team to team as a swing tackle with great potential that he will never realize.
     
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    might be right we, and I'm all for a balance of youth and vet on the line, next year Brown/Slauson/Bushrod will probably be on the line w/Long/Mills being young(2nd year players), so another rookie wouldn't bother me so much...and Kromer is capable of actually teaching/developing linemen so I could see them being happy either way.
     
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    But a rookie should not be signed specifically to play swing tackle. They won't do well at it since experience at both spots is essential to make that work, and if we sign another OT it should be because we have no prospects right now to develop.

    I could see a second year player filling in as the swing on their way to developing as a potential starter, so if Mills flames out early at RT I'd be okay to fill him in there as a temporary landing spot for the kid if he's got the chops to spot play LT after a year with Kromer.

    For me, rookie draft picks should be used to shore up future areas where we have a lack of depth, like corner and QB.
     
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    well Long/mills/shea/bostic/greene were all picked b/c they can play multiple positions; but I don't really disagree w/you....just sayin I can see the team doing this. Especially a guy that they can groom into a LT behind Bushrod but can also learn RT.

    I agree w/you about how the draftr should be set up also. 6 draft picks, this year and the way Emery seems to be able to get guys that work for his system in the mid rounds and I think the future is bright for the Bears depth.
     
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    Know what you're talking about first and foremost. Don't come on here posting Google search results without even having watched the Bears last year. If you actually watched every game last year and followed the Bears, you wouldn't have spouted that nonsense about Scott to begin with. Webb isn't my boy. He is however a valuable backup at this point in case of injury or Mills flopping badly in an ACTUAL REGULAR SEASON. Not a preseason game mind you.
     
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    Webb is a valuable backup swing T on paper and that's the problem. Yes, he's healthy and has experience starting at both ends. The problem is, he's never shown much effort, grit, or coach-ability in 3+ years as a starter so it's fair to question how much less of that he will put on display as a backup collecting a check from the bench, if called upon to fill in in a pinch. He OUGHT to be "motivated", but he never has been before when he was a 1st stringer so that calls into question how "valuable" he would actually be as a backup, doesn't it?
     
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