Wow! I missed article back in 2012. Did anyone know this?

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  1. Bearsinhouston

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    It was a little surprising how bad he was given his past successes. Kind of interesting. I had never read this before.

    NFL Rumors: Did Mike Tice Sabotage Mike Martz As Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator?
    October 9, 2012 11:52 am EDT by CBJ
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    A source with ties to former Chicago Bearscenter Olin Kreutz has told me that Bears current offensive coordinator Mike Tice sabotaged former offensive coordinator Mike Martz his previous two seasons (2010 and 2011).

    According to Kruetz, Tice would call line assignments that differed from offensive plays. In the process of doing so, these would cause certain offensive plays not to work. Kreutz went on to say that Martz was the smartest offensive coordinator he ever worked with, and felt that Tice was attempting to force him out of the role. Martz resigned last season after the Bears failed to make the playoffs, while Tice was promoted to offensive coordinator from his role as offensive line coach by head coach Lovie Smith.

    Kreutz has never been one to keep his feelings to himself. When he wasn’t re-signed by the Bears last season, it wasn’t a very pretty situation. Kreutz felt that he wasn’t being treated with respect and signed with the New Orleans Saints before retiring about halfway through the season. Many considered Kreutz a leader in the locker room, but rumors began to develop that Kreutz and Jay Cutlerdidn’t always get along. Regardless of that relationship and others, the whole Kreutz situation was a big mess after the lockout last season. One can assume that Kreutz may still have some hard feelings towards the team and his former position coach Tice, but his words shouldn’t be discounted either.

    There’s no question that it was time for the Bears to part ways with the veteran, but as one of the team’s most popular players, it didn’t end as well as many fans would have liked. As much as I liked and respected Kreutz, his better days were behind him.

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    I think this is giving Tice WAY to much credit. I guess a bigger question is, why is an O so unorganized to have the LC calling plays in game for the OL and the OC is calling plays only for the QB and "skilled" players?

    Shouldn't the QB when the calls come in give the assignments to everyone?
     
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    There are definitely some questions and raised eyebrows, but usually there is at least a shred of truth to these things. They normally don't start in a vacuum. (unless the thought popped up in Tices head of course)
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me things were piecemealed in the Lovie era. Martz was no genius with his inability to audible, the 7 step drops, and the excessive passing.
     
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    Mike Tice is Keyser Sose. Just look at that picture JABF99 keeps posting. Can't you see the criminal genius that lurks behind those eyes?

    I'm telling you, the Hester Package is finally ready. Bet the farm on Atlanta to win the SB.
     
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    Ummm, isn't that Twitter handle similar to what Carimi called himself, "BearJew". Could it be or was there an authors name given that's not posted?

    As poorly as that line played and as many times as Cutler was hit and sacked either those guys were the worst line known to man (possible), Martz was a fool to keep calling plays with 7 step drops (also possible), or the article has some merit. Sure was a crappy offense but Tice's was even crappier. Kinda like North Korea. His Daddy was an idiot but sonny boy is a total moron.

    Kruetz not liking Cutler much isn't surprising. They're more alike than it would seem which is often why that happens but then again there are a lot of people Olin didn't like. If he thought the offer he got was bad he should have stuck around for Emery's. He'd have been paying the Bears to play. I can believe most anything when it comes to Tice and remember he turned down a similar position with the Titans I believe it was.

    Anyway, Tice was Lovie's Brutus. The coach who finally stuck the knife in deep. But it kind of proves all the dysfunction that was going on behind the scenes that we sensed but never knew for certain because of Lovie's stoicism and Angelo's bullshit. I can buy what the story says but it makes no difference now. They're all gone. Every single one of them and for the first time since the days of Jim Finks and Jerry Vainisi I feel like we have a good front office and a good coaching staff who are on the same page working together as opposed to at odds with one another.

    What a relief. It's almost like :10_14_5[1]:
     
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    Whatta ya' mean? He doesn't look a thing like Kevin Spacey. ;)
     
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    So, according to this article, Tice sabotaged Martz with bad line calls and no one ever said a word in the film room or in meetings. No one at other skill positions noticed. The QB wasn't smart enough to know the line call and the play call didn't match. OR.....everyone on the team was in on the sabotage.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
     
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    Yep, Mike Tice is so smart and sneaky he fooled them all. :rolleyes:
     
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    I will always believe Lovie and Tice have CIA ties, and The Hester Package is their secret conspiracy that will bring world powers to their knees. The sheer brilliance of Tice and Lovie will never be fully appreciated. These men were geniuses, yet evil and diabolical. Of course Lovie and Tice designed this evil scheme to lose under Mike Martz' tenure as OC. It fulfills a prophecy that is over 3000 years old.

    Lovie knew he and Tice would be let go by the Bears and picked up in Tampa and Atlanta. The move of the Hester Package out of Chicago was planned back as far as 1987 when Ditka was still here - and it was a young Lovie and Tice manipulating the puppet strings back then. Long before they were hired by the Bears.

    If you play the old Beatles Abbey Road song, "Here Comes the Sun" backwards (it's the 7th song on the album) at exactly 2:03 minutes in, you'll hear an evil croak that is Lovie saying something about the Hester Package and then you can just barely make out something that sounds like "Genesis is with J'Marcus" and then it's all jibberish after that. We should all be VERY afraid. Somehow I'm convinced Conte is behind this in SOME evil way too (isn't he to be blamed for everything bad in Chicago.....even the potholes in our streets?). I fully expect Urlacher to reveal some of this on his next television appearance, and we'll all condemn him for being "negative" by reporting on the entire scheme. Keep in mind that Brian is actually a "good guy" here, yet we are all blind to see it. He'll ultimately be the fall guy and won't have his jersey retired by the McCaskeys (who are also up to their eyeballs in the conspiracy). Here are the main players:

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